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May 20th, 2009

Abstract 17 Series 3 ‘Lines’ page 2

3 Responses to “Abstract 17 Series 3 ‘Lines’ page 2”

  1. Dick Whyte Says:

    Here it is finally. Comics have been raised to the level of modern philosophy. Just as painting once started again from the white canvass (Robert Rauschenberg, Robert Ryman etc.) and music started again from silence (John Cage) now comics may begin again from the empty frame (DRAW). One of my favourite Raushenberg works is actually “Erased DeKooning” in which he exhibited a DeKooning drawing which he erased (the white piece of paper, a palimpest).

    Here is a link to an article with a photo of both Ruashenberg’s white paintings and the erased DeKooning, and Cage saying “To Whom It May Concern: The white paintings came first; my silent piece came later.” Anyway, here’s the link: http://www.tate.org.uk/tateetc/issue8/erasuregenteel.htm

    As modern philosophy this drags comics into relation with Descarte’s view – absolute skepticism, complete doubt, the erasing of all previously assumed knowledge. Not yet post-modern but distinctly late-modernism in the sense that you have provided us with a meditation on the essence of comics – which I have always believed was the frame. I think I have talked to you about this before – it is the frame within a frame which defines comics for me. And though there are now comics without frames (which fill the page) it would never have become a comic without the frame as its first significant moment.

    So, it begins. Comics are free. I know this sounds like a lot of weight to put on this work but I believe it is a pivot for all future comics. This is the beginning of the end, and the end of the beginning. It is only by emptying the self that we can begin to explore fullness, to be open to the speeds and intensities of pure energy…

    I have to write a blog on this piece – I believe you have changed comics forever. And even though they are about 50 years behind the rest of the arts, it is still just as relevant. Each medium must work its own problems out in the time they have.

    Great work.

    Much love-

  2. draw Says:

    Hey Richard, thanks for the fantastic comment and what a interesting article.

    You have picked up on something I have been thinking about while making series 3 abstract comics. The fundamentals of what comics are and how we piece them together,

    That “Erased de Kooning” is a great piece of art.

    I love this quote from the article:
    “Thinking a lot about Robert Rauschenberg’s Erased de Kooning Drawing (1953), I realised that one of the things it is about is minimising the subject, indicating that the removal of one subject can allow for the appearance of another. The things that go undiscussed in conversation are in some way equivalent to those that are talked about; what we did manage to discuss was just as important as what was left out. ”

    This begs the question, what do you think about Garfield minus Garfield?
    clearly this is operating in the same area as the “Erased de Kooning”

    over at Abstract Comics Blog http://abstractcomics.blogspot.com There has been a post about taking a page from the manga Lone Wolf and Cub and removing the dueling samurais. http://abstractcomics.blogspot.com/2009/05/duel.html leaving only the speed lines and rain. What is interesting is I think its not great on its own as a comic yet it becomes more interesting once you know how it was created.

    See you soon

  3. Dick Whyte Says:

    Yeah – that is a great quote. Jean Paul Sartre is interested in that kind of idea when he talks about absence and presence. He uses the example of waiting for a friend at a cafe, and the friend doesn’t turn up. Even though they are absent their presence is felt all the more keenly precisely because of their absence. In a sense their absence is a form of presence.

    Hmmmm… I wonder about Garfield minus Garfield. Although it is working with absence I don’t feel that it brings about the presence of Garfield… but it does open upon “the removal of one subject can allow for the appearance of another.” There is a presence-absence going on in GmG which is really interesting – well spotted.

    Man – I love that comic you sent me a link too – it is awesome. I left a comment on it, but it has to be approved first.

    Comics is certainly exploring fertile areas, particularly in terms of conceptual art. I think maybe there is room for a “beyond abstract” comics to explore the “conceptual comic” (ie. not about the abstraction, so much as about the “ideas” which rise from the work). I mean – this work is not “abstract” really, but “conceptual.” Does this make sense? I am far more interested in “conceptual comics” I think.

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